Elk summer in the higher elevations, and as snow depths increase, they move north to lower elevations. Concentrate on areas that are more inaccessible. Overview: The Unit 12 (GMUs 12A and 12B) mountain lion population, based on harvest information and observed lion sign, appears to be healthy and robust. There are 1,685 limited opportunity general (rifle) elk tags available in units all over Arizona. In the last couple of years, only a few elk have been spotted along the 12A/12B/12BW boundary on the west side of the Kaibab Plateau. No motor vehicles are allowed in the Paria Canyon/Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. As the fall progresses the deer become more and more secretive. Be prepared for extreme weather. On the Kaibab Plateau the bird has a very restricted range occupying mixed conifer habitat types near the south end of the Kaibab National Forest and is also found in the Grand Canyon National Park North Rim. Jacob Lake Campground, administered by Kaibab National Forest, intersection of U.S. 89A and State Hwy 67 at Jacob Lake; DeMotte Campground, Kaibab National Forest, Hwy 67; Grand Canyon National Park, North Rim. I plan on going up there to scout sometime soon but was wondering if anyone has seen elk up there. Remember this deer herd is extremely migratory and will remain at higher elevations until significant snowfall pushes them off. Great Buffalo viewing areas a couple miles north of park entry, If your Lucky. This is my first year being drawn for elk and got a tag for all 12 and 13 units for any elk and this tag is good until April of '19. Be prepared for remote camping as the only amenities during the spring hunt are at Jacob Lake and in Fredonia. Arizona Mule Deer, Elk & Antelope Hunts. During the spring hunt be prepared for cold temperatures and even snow. Use common sense; dont take shortcuts as they often take a lot longer than the more sensible route. This includes chasing, pursuing, or herding antelope with any type of vehicle. The hunter questionnaire link is located on the back of your tag. J John McLaughlin Registered Unlock the secrets of limited license lotteries and discover drawing and harvest trends to create a better hunt planning strategy. Units 36A, B and C and unit 35A and 35B have good populations of mule deer (and whitetail deer). Hunters who. The best hunting techniques include walking, and watching and listening while sitting with your back to a tree. Unit 12A continues to provide the turkey hunter and/or wildlife enthusiast a unique opportunity to observe Merriams Turkeys. The squirrel is dark in color, has tufted ears, and has a large white bushy tail. Also, several lions are sighted each year by hunters glassing canyons and watching waters. So research first, pick better Units and the PointGuard. Read about advertising on huntscore here. Once a track is located the hounds are released and the lion is pursued until treed. Having extra spare tires would also be a good idea. There is also a small herd that lives just south of Fredonia in the grassland/ low shrub density areas. Once a track is located the hounds are released and the lion is pursued until treed. If frost has cured out the summer range forage and some cold weather has struck, concentrate your efforts in the pinyon/juniper areas and even farther out in the sage and open canyon country. Glen Canyon National Recreation Area 928 608-6200 Rifle. During the spring hunt be prepared for cold temperatures and even snow. Arizona Unit 8 Elk Hunting. Walking and stalking in areas determined by scouting to hold bachelor herds of bucks can be exciting and productive. Bachelor herds are typically broken up by this hunt and bucks can be relatively evenly distributed throughout the plateau. Forage quality and snowfall will push the deer to the lower winter range. Is it tough to draw, what is the hunting pressure like and elk density like. Under alternative management these favorable ratios should be maintained or even improved. The average age of a buck harvested on the late hunts has climbed from just over two years of age to over 4 years of age in the past several years, yearling buck weights have stabilized at an acceptable level in recent years and as a result antler development has been excellent. Like many Arizona elk units, 5A bulls are very responsive to calling. Camping is allowed in designated areas and within 30 of open roadways on Forest Service administered lands throughout the unit. Overview: This unit is primarily winter range for migratory deer from both the North Kaibab Plateau in Arizona and from the Paunsaugunt Plateau in southern Utah. The short story is that at several west side springs where I expected to find rubs and wallows, there were none. Arizona Game & Fish Department, Region II- 928-774-5045 Note: The state line is only marked at dirt road crossings. Although 12A/12B is not known for its record breaking antelope bucks, hunt success has typically been around 40% for archery and 100% for rifle. Huge bucks, forkhorns, and even does have been the objects of desire for hunters in this unit. The prepared hunter is often the successful hunter. Good boots, parkas, and camping gear can make or break your hunt. Concentrate your efforts in areas with rim-rock and significant changes in elevation. Grouse hunting is a great excuse to come to the Kaibab to enjoy a cooler climate. Hunters interested in purchasing an elk tag should be aware that this unit has few elk and is considered a limited opportunity hunt. Drier habitat conditions further to the east limit use of this area. Be prepared for remote camping as the only amenities during the spring hunt are at Jacob Lake and in Fredonia. Areas for hunting elk in this unit vary according to the time period in which the hunt occurs. Adjust your hunting strategies accordingly and have fun. Finally, mule deer throughout their range are altering their behavior as hunting pressure increases. Use the link, or scan code to get to this page and select the questionnaire for your hunt. Some tags in the state may take upwards of two and a half decades to draw as a non-resident. Create a free account to read the rest of this terrain note! You could hire a outfitter to get in there and pin down where the few elk are. During the winter months, access to areas within Unit 12 can be extremely limited, even nonexistent. 12A includes the Kaibab plateau that actually starts in southern Utah and rising up to the south to 9300+ ft. Current data indicates that buck:doe ratios are excellent. The lion population in Unit 12 is a migratory population of rought 60-80 animals with the lions essentially following the deer herd as it migrates from summer to winter ranges. Areas: During the spring turkey hunt significant winter snowfall can affect access and often dictates hunting locations. See how weather varies by elevation within a unit by selecting an elevation range. The Grand Canyon National Park is not open to hunting. It is the hunters responsibility to know where they are and the state line is patrolled heavily by both Utah and Arizona law enforcement. Thanks a ton ! Elevations range from approximately 4,000 in Glen Canyon to 7,000 on the Paria Plateau. Forage quality and snowfall will push the deer to the lower winter range. A forum community dedicated to hunting and fishing enthusiasts in the Arizona area. After an opening day of this activity plan on spending the next nine days in the same manner. Also, before the hunt begins, study topo maps and enlist the aid of others who have hunted the area before. Concentrate your efforts in areas with waterholes (not necessarily on the water), as the plateau is often dry at this time of the year. Mistakes are painful or expensive or both. Conditions can vary from 80 degrees to below freezing, from sunny to snow, and from pleasant to down right ugly. Some say the great days of the Kaibab are past, others maintain things are as good or better than ever, and still others claim things will be great in the future. Hunters should note, the OTC elk tag is not a companion or corresponding tag and has its own hunting season dates, areas and other restrictions. Welcome to the board. The majority of the unit is public land administered by the Bureau of Land Management. Sir, Cut your losses and stay home, worst unit almost in whole state. A good pair of binoculars and spotting scope will improve the chance of taking a trophy bull. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. A unit may have 80% public land, but a particluar species may only occupy 20% on the entire area. Finally, mule deer throughout their range are altering their behavior as hunting pressure increases. Areas: It may be hard to believe but the likelihood of running into an older age class buck, as near as the author can tell, is just about equal almost anywhere on the plateau. Antelope, Bighorn Sheep, Mule Deer, Chukar. Humphreys Peak is the highest point in Arizona, sitting at 12,637 feet in elevation, and it is a dormant volcano. It has also been introduced in the San Francisco Peaks area near Flagstaff. First, on an archery hunt dont bother with pinyon/juniper areas unless it has snowed (not likely). Birds are usually found in isolated coveys, and can (usually do) descend thousands of feet into inaccessible canyons after being flushed. Be prepared for extreme weather. Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. From the South: None. The unit's terrain is very rocky with rugged mountains. Non-resident draw odds reach 100% at ~12-13 bonus points for both units. Before each hunting trip, verify that the zone is still open, by calling 877-438-0447 or checking online at View harvest thresholds and zone closures. The current yearly limit on lions harvested in Unit 12 stands at 14. As the fall progresses the deer become more and more secretive. Other Pertinent Climate Information Essentially, it could take decades of applying to get drawn for a premier hunt for one of Arizona's world class mule deer. Overview: According to David Brown in Arizona Game Birds the Blue grouse is a native of the Kaibab Plateau and restricted locals in the White Mountains. Also look for turkey scratch, those locations where flocks of turkeys have been feeding and have disturbed the litter layer of the forest floor. This is my first year being drawn for elk and got a tag for all 12 and 13 units for any elk and this tag is good until April of 19. The Paria Plateau in eastern 12B has the lowest density of deer and is not part of the migratory herds from the Kaibab Plateau or the Paunsaugunt. Https://www.azgfd.com/Hunting/Questionnaires/. Overview: Unit 12A, world famous for the Kaibab Deer Herd, is also home to one of the premier turkey populations in the state of Arizona. Overview: Unit 12A, world famous for the Kaibab Deer Herd, is also home to one of the premier turkey populations in the state of Arizona. From the West: State Hwy 389 Grouse, like squirrels, appear to be most active early in the morning but walking throughout the day can result in flushed birds. Deer from the North Kaibab start migrating northward to merge with the Utah deer in early-November. However, locating and harvesting an antlerless deer is likely to become more challenging as these animals become more educated about two-legged visitors to the plateau. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Elk use open grasslands and sparsely forested areas more than most people think, and since these areas usually have fewer roads it is much easier to escape hunting pressure in these areas. No motorized vehicles are allowed in BLM wilderness. The majority of elk in this unit are located on National Forest lands in the southern part of the unit. By this time of year the deer are visiting water in the dark. The Arizona Game and Fish Commission authorized over-the-counter (OTC) elk tags that include units 12A and 12B and others (see regulations). That was our initial thoughts on region. Chukar also been occasionally observed in drainages to the Colorado River and along the Vermillion Cliffs in the wilderness area in 12BE. If the deer are low and you glass enough it will pay off. The elevation in this area ranges from 3,000' to 7,000'; vegetation ranges from riparian cottonwood-willow and salt cedar along the Gila River, to Chihuahuan Desert in the lower elevations a Elk hunting in this unit can be extremely difficult due to the terrain. If you are fortunate enough to draw one of the most sought after deer tags in the United States come to the Kaibab with realistic expectations and remember, we hunt for the experience. Check stock tanks for elk use (tracks) prior to the season. Also, before the hunt begins, study topo maps and enlist the aid of others who have hunted the area before. Enjoy the natural splendor of the Kaibab Plateau, revel in your good fortune at having a tag, relish the fact that a huge deer is a possibility, but most of all be a responsible sportsman and represent our sport in the best manner possible. Areas of elk concentrations change somewhat year-to-year, depending on localized summer rainfall filling stock tanks and greening up vegetation. As unit 10 is known for giant bull elk, Units 12A and 13B are just as famous for producing monster mule deer bucks and Arizona Wildlife Outfitters has taken their share of trophy heads from both units. Keep movements to a minimum, scan the surrounding area constantly, and listen for turkey vocalizations. Depending on the amount of snow fall, Pigeon Canyon and Gunsight Point to the west are generally best after early November. During both the spring and fall hunts be safe and acquire positive target identification. During the fall hunt gas, food, and lodging can be found in Fredonia, Jacob Lake, and near DeMotte Park. Elevation ranges are based on weather stations in or near the unit. *There are currently no Population Management Seasons for elk tags available for successfully drawn deer hunters in Units 12A East and/or West. These hunts take place in late November or early December. On the Kaibab Plateau the bird has a very restricted range occupying mixed conifer habitat types near the south end of the Kaibab National Forest and is also found in the Grand Canyon National Park North Rim. This is the classic western mule deer hunt. Learn more. Beginning at U.S. Hwy 89A and the Kaibab National Forest boundary near mp 566; southerly and easterly along the forest boundary to Grand Canyon National Park; northeasterly along the park boundary to Glen Canyon National Recreation area; easterly along the recreation area boundary to the Colorado River; northeasterly along the Colorado River to the Arizona-Utah state line; westerly along the state line to Kanab Creek; southerly along Kanab Creek to the Kaibab National Forest boundary; northerly, easterly, and southerly along this boundary to U.S. Hwy 89A near mp 566; except those portions that are sovereign tribal lands of the Kaibab Band of Paiute Indians. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Note: 12BW is the entire portion of 12B that is west of BLM road 1065 (House Rock Valley/ Coyote Valley Road), excluding the Paria Plateau. They were good 330-350 bulls. hunt in game management units 12A, 12B, 13A and 13B. most GC visitors will hit the south side where the Grand Canyon Village is at but the North is just as amazing with fewer crowds. The Kaibab Plateau ranges from 6,000' to 9,200'; vegetation consists of ponderosa pine, mixed conifer, and aspen. I did find some ancient droppings from over a year before but no elk. This includes the premier trophy units 1, 9, 10, 23, and 27. City of Page Chamber of Commerce 928 645-2741, Https://www.azgfd.com/Hunting/Questionnaires/, https://www.azgfd.com/Hunting/Questionnaires/. Blue Grouse, Kaibab Squirrel, Merriams Turkey, Mountain Lion, Mule Deer. I was thinking about that hunt also . AS a reminder: Dont stand really close to edge, the sandstone/ granite crumbles with very little weight or movement, you dont want to see the bottom or top, depending on which way your falling on the way down. From the North: U.S. Hwy 89 in Page; Lees Ferry Campground, 4 miles north of Marble Canyon, administered by the National Park Service. Articles often lead to false expectations; huge bucks do not exist behind every tree anywhere in the world. Permit numbers for the 12B hunt are very limited. Take care in species identification before dropping the hammer. Finally, remember that you could be sitting in the office and enjoy the opportunity to get away and take part in the oldest most admirable sport there is. Spring sources along the Vermilion Cliffs are best accessed by horseback or hiking from Highway 89A 2 or 3 miles to the base of the cliffs. If I draw a 12A deer tag I will be there around Labor Day. The large canyons and rocky areas that form the edges of the Kaibab and Paria plateaus are likely areas to locate lion sign. The Vermillion Cliffs and Paria Plateau in 12BE, the western side of Buckskin Mountain, and the Gunsight peninsula including Kanab Creek and Snake Gulch have seen harvests in recent years, and are good starting points. If you end up wanting to take a camping trip and see the Grand Canyon then 12A is a great spot. Elk tags are offered thru the draw system. These units are specifically managed for wildlife values other than elk, and an established elk population is not desirable. Under alternative management these favorable ratios should be maintained or even improved. In general, unrestricted vehicle travel is allowed on all open BLM roads. The large canyons and rocky areas that form the edges of the Kaibab and Paria plateaus are likely areas to locate lion sign. The prepared hunter is often the successful hunter. QUICK NAV: RESIDENCY STATUS: SHOW ODDS FOR: or SHOW UNIT: Arizona - Elk. On a 12A early hunt, once again, dont bother with pinyon/juniper habitat types unless it has snowed. Very few services are available for gas and food. 12BE is the entire portion of 12B that is east of BLM road 1065 (House Rock Valley/ Coyote Valley Road). Concentrate your efforts in areas with rim-rock and significant changes in elevation. Use common sense; dont take shortcuts as they often take a lot longer than the more sensible route. In addition to the 48-hr reporting requirement, the hunter (or their designee) needs to present the mountain lions skull and hide with attached proof of sex to a designated Arizona Game and Fish Department employee for inspection within 10 days of taking the mountain lion. Over-the-counter elk seasons are described in the 2014 pronghorn antelope and elk regulations. At least it's at a discounted price. It'd be a great trip to take and walk around the woods/sit some watering holes for a day or two as a bonus; and hope to be the luckiest hunter ever. There are generally one or two herds on South Canyon Point; however this area is more difficult to access as there are few roads in the area. If you are fortunate enough to draw one of the most sought after deer tags in the United States come to the Kaibab with realistic expectations. John is that a unit that can produce a monster bull? That is not a problem since the other units may not have any elk at all. The lion population in Unit 12 is a migratory population of roughly 60-80 animals with the lions essentially following the deer herd as it migrates from summer to winter ranges. If old man winter has not yet shown his face follow the suggestions given for the early hunt and good luck. Likewise, hunters who want to hunt the Paria Plateau must apply for a 12B permit. It is recommended that hunters do not apply for this hunt in the draw but rather purchase the tags at a significant discount as left over tags. Arizona hunters still have an opportunity to receive a hunt permit-tag for select 2022 elk hunts. Toggle between terrain, satellite, and topographic views, 1st choice license applications and licenses drawn, Draw odds for resident and nonresident applicants, Harvest stats by hunt_code, manner, season, sex, type, Average # of days between precip or snow event, Probability of other weather events (thunder, hail, etc) by by month. Weather can vary by elevation. *There are currently no Population Management Seasons for elk tags available for successfully drawn deer hunters in Units 12A East and/or West. Antlerless Hunting: After several years of antlerless hunting, many of the does on the plateau have become as hunter-wise as most bucks. Hunters can report their mountain lion harvest in person, by telephone at 1-877-438-0447, or online. Learn More. But, if you plan to go regardless you should try to reach the AZGFD wildlife manager for that zone if at all possible and see if you can get some hints as to where to look. However, for the past few years, bison have been seen near Wall Lake, as well as along Forest Service Roads 219B, 223, 270, and 610. Both of these units make up a portion of . Pronghorn are also found along the edge of the plateau in the pinyon-juniper transition zone. Less pressure o grow big? Hunt the travel corridors up or down from water and you will improve your odds. Areas around Crystal Springs, Sourdough Well, and along the 610 rd near the National Park Boundary provide the best opportunity for finding the often secretive Blue Grouse. Elk will be found from the Mogollon Rim south to Parker Creek. Many hunters utilize horses and mules, snowmobiles, and other recreational vehicles to overcome these access limitations. Find areas overlooking large open expanses and plan on sitting still for hours on end and glassing until you feel like your eyes are going to fall out. A few, very few elk wander south from Utah now and then. Do you have landowner tags, lease land, or have an lodge? The Grand Canyon National Park is not open to hunting. 661 leftover tags for a reason. Some lions have been harvested incidental to these other activities. The majority of the unit is public land administered by the Bureau of Land Management, Arizona Strip District, 345 E. Riverside Drive, St. George, Utah 84770, phone (435) 688-3200. The population grew to about 160 bighorns within the first 8 years. Kaibab Natl Forest, North Kaibab District 928-643-7395 Remember, we hunt for the experience. During the winter months access to areas within Unit 12 can be extremely limited, even nonexistent. North of Kane Ranch, there are a few groups of antelope scattered throughout the rolling hills. Hunters with a 12B permit (vs. 12BW permit) may hunt the Paria Plateau as well as the rest of the Unit. There are several small herds that reside on the north side of Highway 89A in the grassland. Our Arizona late-season elk hunts are a great hunt for hunters that want to experience bachelor herds of bull elk. The elk nonpermit-tags are not valid in all units statewide. If you are fortunate enough to receive a coveted 12B deer or sheep tag, you might consider purchasing a mountain lion tag before heading to the Unit. The current yearly limit on lions harvested in Unit 12/Zone B stands at 14. Finally, enjoy the finest terrain, climate, and surroundings that nature has to offer, the Kaibab Plateau. The nonpermit-tag hunts in Units 12A and 12B are open through Dec. 31, while the nonpermit-tag hunts in Units 13A and 13B are open through Sept. 11, then again from Nov. 4 through Dec. 31. Temperatures and conditions may shift from temperate to extreme in the space of several hours. 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